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The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:38 pm
by Sominus

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:58 pm
by Herb Stoops
Fast way to patch up the wood. Gums up the disc a tad. You can dump out the dust canister on the sander too.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:47 pm
by Nickp
Way too slick...thanks !

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:38 pm
by Stick486
BTW...
how does it finish???

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:43 pm
by Herb Stoops
Just guessing, but it might not be compatible with stains or oil finishes. Any finish that doesn't need to soak in might work.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:57 pm
by Stick486
Herb Stoops wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:43 pm Just guessing, but it might not be compatible with stains or oil finishes. Any finish that doesn't need to soak in might work.
Herb
figured about the same...

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:29 am
by Bushwhacker
I recently fixed the broken latch on our Grand Mother clock with Super Glue. Didn;t hold very well, but I had to keep my left hand in my pocket for a week until I got my two fingers pried apart. Lost some skin on that job.

Bushwhacker

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:57 am
by Stick486
Bushwhacker wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:29 am I had to keep my left hand in my pocket for a week until I got my two fingers pried apart. Lost some skin on that job.
for the next time...
fingernail polish remover painted on w/ a Q tip...

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:18 am
by Herb Stoops
I had that experience too. It didn't hold the glasses together, but 2 fingers the index and naughty finger were stuck together for a long time. I have heard that surgeons use it to close wounds.
I turned to Bluelight Glue like the dentist uses. I bought a tube and a blue light flashliight and it seems to work better. The glasses stay and my fingers aren't stuck.
HErb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28 am
by Herb Stoops
I have heard that Acetone (nail polish remover) is harmful to a person, it causes shortened menstrual cycles. And if consumed is hard on your lungs and throat when breathing the fumes, another side effect is it is quite combustible,towards explosive so smoking while using it is frowned upon.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:15 am
by Stick486
Herb Stoops wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28 am I have heard that Acetone (nail polish remover) is harmful to a person, it causes shortened menstrual cycles.
Herb
we could use you having shorter menstrual cycles... hopefully it helps w/ your PMS too...

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 am
by Herb Stoops
The Periods are gone, but the PMS is your dept.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:49 am
by Stick486
Herb Stoops wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 am The Periods are gone, but the PMS is your dept.
Herb
she passed on sometime back... so that's not an issue here anymore...

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:11 am
by DaninVan
I mentioned that Acetone thing to my cousin, a Dr. (Radiologist) and he kind of laughed it off saying that Acetone is a naturally occurring compound in your body, not to worry...
I'm still dubious.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-is-acetone#1

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:12 pm
by Cherryville Chuck
The best way to find out about a substance is to check its MSDS or just SDS (material safety data sheet). Everything is online these days. Section 4 has the suggested first aid measures, section 9 has it's physical and chemical properties, and section 11 has toxicological information. Those are the most important ones. Section 10 which is reactivity and stability may on rare occasion be of interest. Section 9 shows that acetone has an extremely low viscosity, about 1/3 that of water which suggests it may be easily absorbed through the skin and nasal and lung membranes. Flammability and explosive limits are also of interest in section 9. At a concentration of 2.5% of acetone fumes to air ratio it goes boom it it gets a spark.With acetone at 2.5% though you'd probably be unconscious already.

I was taught in first aid that if you find a person unconscious with no sign of trauma to smell their breath and if it smells fruity or like acetone that they are in a diabetic coma from too high a level of ketones which I believe is the chemical family that acetone belongs to. So while the doctor is correct, they are a bad thing. The MSDSs also talk about things like Time Weighted Averages (twa) and Exposure Limits (stel) in section 8. It's rare that we would need to worry about that but it's obvious that a person should be using gloves and if possible have a fan blowing the fumes away from you. Even a single exposure can have an effect on the central nervous system according to the MSDS.

The MSDS for acetone- https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?pa ... anguage=en

By the way, another very nasty chemical sometimes used in the workshop is methyl hydrate. Take all the same precautions as for acetone. I've used it for smoothing out shellac.

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:19 pm
by DaninVan
Methyl Hydrate....mmmmmm :)

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:21 pm
by DaninVan
Herb Stoops wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 am The Periods are gone, but the PMS is your dept.
Herb
It's the commas you have to watch out for!

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:47 pm
by Herb Stoops
The only time I get any sleep.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:11 pm
by DimitriM
Greetings!
Thank you Michael for the very good technique pointed. I would like to add a comment and ask a question:
Having to fill up many woodworm cavities I tried several DIY fillers, and some german wood filler off-the-shelf, average result, then some mixture of fine wood dust with glue - a sticky dough that will make a light halo around the filled cavity in the end. The halo will not absorb stain (as it is glue absorbed at the margins of the cavity). Then, as it dries it loses water and sinks, and needs another layer to fill and another day to wait for it to dry. Not impressed. Then, (and this was unexpectedly bad) I tried a waterproof wood glue I have with the same fine wood powder, and it dried up to an extremely hard layer that would not yield to sandpaper, and was there for everyone to see, disgusting and impossible to get rid of in any way. Then, I tried dried espresso coffee grinds with glue. I chose the coffee grinds because a very dark brown contrast looks slightly better than the dim brownish paste made of sandpaper dust. I mixed it with glue, the same story with shrinking in the cavity. I reverted to the german putty and did a mediocre job. Now I need more of this work now, and I am willing to try coffee grind with superglue, but would like to hear your experience with stains on the patches. How good do you think it is in filling deep and wide cavities, does it crumble away after sometime, does it take stains without halo, does the finish stick on it or will it flake away? One minute videos do not tell the whole truth, they seem (and in many aspects they are) miraculous, but leave a lot of descriptions in the dark.

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:41 pm
by Herb Stoops
I have used water based hard rock putty and also epoxy for larger voids. but my favorite for doing the sawdust thing is to mix the sawdust with shellac instead of glue and then sand it off and give the project a coat of sanding sealer, which is diluted shellac. The patch seems to blend in without marks.
HErb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:39 pm
by Stick486
Herb Stoops wrote: Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:41 pm I have used water based hard rock putty and also epoxy for larger voids. but my favorite for doing the sawdust thing is to mix the sawdust with shellac instead of glue and then sand it off and give the project a coat of sanding sealer, which is diluted shellac. The patch seems to blend in without marks.
HErb
I'm w/ you Herb...
consider wood grain fillers.....
gave up on the SG nonsense ages ago...

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 4:55 pm
by Herb Stoops
DaninVan wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:21 pm
Herb Stoops wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:22 am The Periods are gone, but the PMS is your dept.
Herb
It's the commas you have to watch out for!
When I was a kid,over 80 years ago we read somewhere that sniffing acetone cured pimples. they were right too dead people don't get pimples.
Herb

Re: The magic of superglue…

Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 11:44 pm
by Jon
Interesting approach. A bit surprised to see the bare finger smoothing over the glue joint. Makes one suspicious.