Delta TP400LS Planer

Tools, Reviews, how to use, show it off, new purchase, hand tools, power tools, new technologies, routing/bits, jigs/templates, etc...
Post Reply
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Delta TP400LS Planer

#1

Post by DaninVan »

Hey; an actual woodworking problem!
My planer started making baaad noises, so I obviously stopped using it. I went through the whole m/c, cleaned and lubed everything...then went back to the drive belt side as I noticed that the big nut on the end of the cutter shaft, that locks down the drive pulley, was loose. I should have started there when I noticed it...:(
I took the belt off and found that the hub of the big drive pulley was worn away and really sloppy...maybe 1/16" or less of play side to side.
The problem is although the pulley moves a bit on the shaft, I can't pull it off. I'm assuming the shaft key has jammed the pulley somehow?
I'm thinking maybe cut the pulley in half with a multi tool???
This vid shows exactly what the drive pulley situation is...but mine will not just pull off.
User avatar
sunnybob
Registered User
Posts: 235
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:42 am
Location: Cyprus
Been thanked: 265 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#2

Post by sunnybob »

To be pedantic, its not a "woodworking problem" its a mechanical problem :D
"The "correct" way to remove it would be to use a two or three claw gear extractor. the quick and dirty way is to cut it off.
Decisions, decisions. :roll: :D
My projects are here;

https://pbase.com/sunnybob
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#3

Post by DaninVan »

sunnybob wrote: Tue Sep 17, 2024 7:38 pm To be pedantic, its not a "woodworking problem" its a mechanical problem :D
"The "correct" way to remove it would be to use a two or three claw gear extractor. the quick and dirty way is to cut it off.
Decisions, decisions. :roll: :D
I stand corrected, Bob; but the Forum category had a lot of leeway...

"General Tools Discussion
Tools, Reviews, how to use, show it off, new purchase, hand tools, power tools, new technologies, routing/bits, jigs/templates, etc... "
I tried my gear puller but there's not enough clearance on the backside of the pulley to slip the claws in there.
I'm hoping someone has a hack for that kind of situation. I think the gear puller technique might work if I could get on the backside of the pulley.
I've ordered the new pulley.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/296524481502?_ ... OSwYB9meUa~
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#4

Post by DaninVan »

The mind boggles!
You'd think that someone going to all the trouble of taking these pics would have realized they'd need to show the keyway on the shaft?!
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/365107224686?_s ... R6Dk_u_AZA
In any case, nice to know i can get a replacement at a pretty decent price.
What I really need is the plastic shroud that covers the belt drive parts... mine was damaged by the heat from the friction of the wobbling pulley :(
User avatar
sunnybob
Registered User
Posts: 235
Joined: Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:42 am
Location: Cyprus
Been thanked: 265 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#5

Post by sunnybob »

If you have a small propane torch (fountain pen sized) you could try heating the pulley around the hole to see if you can enlarge it a bit, but if there are more delicate parts nearby that might not be a good method.
If you use a dremel wheel make sure you cover all of the surrounding parts because a fine layer of ali dust does wonders for other bearing surfaces :o :o :o
My projects are here;

https://pbase.com/sunnybob
User avatar
Stick486
CS/TS
Posts: 20483
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
Location: Central Colorado
Preferred name: Stick486
Has thanked: 657 times
Been thanked: 580 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#6

Post by Stick486 »

DaninVan wrote: Wed Sep 18, 2024 2:31 pm I think the gear puller technique might work if I could get on the backside of the pulley.
Go to the belt groove of the pulley....
Use one of these instead of claws...
It's called a bearing puller, not a gear puller....
.
image.png
.
The whole deal in use...
.
image.png
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
Cherryville Chuck
Global Moderator
Global Moderator
Posts: 2648
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:27 pm
Location: Cherryville, B C
Has thanked: 561 times
Been thanked: 1011 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#7

Post by Cherryville Chuck »

Cutting the pulley in half might be trickier than it sounds. One last option is to drill holes on either side of the hub and thread them. Then dill some matching oversize holes in a piece of steel plate at least 1/4" thick. Put a socket between the shaft and steel plate and tighten bolts through it to the pulley. It's a homemade puller similar to ones for removing the harmonic balancer or steering wheel on a car. Or buy a steering wheel puller set.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
User avatar
Stick486
CS/TS
Posts: 20483
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
Location: Central Colorado
Preferred name: Stick486
Has thanked: 657 times
Been thanked: 580 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#8

Post by Stick486 »

Cherryville Chuck wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:54 pm Or buy a steering wheel puller set.
All of our auto parts stores down here will sell you a top of the line specialty tool. Bring it back to them and get a 100% refund.
I would think it wouldn't be much to rent what Dan needs...
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#9

Post by DaninVan »

Thanks, guys! All great suggestions!!
I got it off yesterday, by fairly gently forcing the pulley forward with a couple of screwdrivers jammed in behind, while simultaneously forcing the key backwards by hitting it with a very small thin screwdriver & hammer. Apparently the key had almost welded itself into the pulley's keyway.
Having both pieces in my hand , and looking at the shaft keyway, this has to be a monumental example of crap engineering; designed to fail, IMHO.
Your input is much appreciated.
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#10

Post by DaninVan »

Cherryville Chuck wrote: Fri Sep 20, 2024 12:54 pm Cutting the pulley in half might be trickier than it sounds. One last option is to drill holes on either side of the hub and thread them. Then dill some matching oversize holes in a piece of steel plate at least 1/4" thick. Put a socket between the shaft and steel plate and tighten bolts through it to the pulley. It's a homemade puller similar to ones for removing the harmonic balancer or steering wheel on a car. Or buy a steering wheel puller set.
That was going to be my next step...but I thought I'd give it one more try before abandoning the 'brute force' technique.
Successfully as it turned out; I just had to refocus on the jammed key rather than the pulley. :)
User avatar
Stick486
CS/TS
Posts: 20483
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
Location: Central Colorado
Preferred name: Stick486
Has thanked: 657 times
Been thanked: 580 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#11

Post by Stick486 »

Plan "D"....
.
TIE ROD.jpg
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
User avatar
DaninVan
Registered User
Posts: 2371
Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
Has thanked: 302 times
Been thanked: 417 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#12

Post by DaninVan »

How does a tuning fork help? ;)
User avatar
Stick486
CS/TS
Posts: 20483
Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
Location: Central Colorado
Preferred name: Stick486
Has thanked: 657 times
Been thanked: 580 times

Re: Delta TP400LS Planer

#13

Post by Stick486 »

DaninVan wrote: Sun Sep 22, 2024 1:19 pm How does a tuning fork help? ;)
DUH!!!...
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
Post Reply