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Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 1:24 pm
by roxanne562001
Been kind of board lately so I got ot the torch and welder and made some Shepherds hooks out of 1/2" rebar. I have been selling a few on Facebook Marketplace. I had a Lady yesterday drive all the way from Dayton Beach about 150 miles to pick up a pair of them :D
sheperds hook 2.jpg
sorry its sideways I don't know how to rotate the image on here.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:17 pm
by Herb Stoops
It is OK, Roxanne, when you click on the picture it comes up right side up and larger.
I like those, I have a couple of singles, those doubles are the real deal. You got the curves nice and uniform and sized the same. Do you bend them around a form? heat to bend,or cold bend?

Herb

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:33 pm
by Nickp
Impressive...nice lines....!

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:51 am
by roxanne562001
Herb Stoops wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 2:17 pm It is OK, Roxanne, when you click on the picture it comes up right side up and larger.
I like those, I have a couple of singles, those doubles are the real deal. You got the curves nice and uniform and sized the same. Do you bend them around a form? heat to bend,or cold bend?

Herb
I heat bend them around an old car brake rotor inner hub that I use for a form. The size worked out just right. I bend the hooks on the same jig just welded two bolts to the rotor hub. I am going to build a propane forge pretty soon to heat them. The oxy acetylene gets kind of pricey. 1/2" rebar is kind of tough to bend cold. I would probably need a hydraulic bender. Maybe if I can sell enough I can buy one :)

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 12:14 pm
by Cherryville Chuck
You could probably put a pipe on the end to use for leverage and do it cold. Rebar can probably take cold bending but some other metals wouldn't like take kindly to doing that. The double hook is a good idea, that helps balance the weight so it stands straighter.

If you post a picture and it loads sideways you can take a copy of it and save it and then rotate it in a viewer and save the corrected version. Then go back in and edit and delete the original and replace with the corrected one. You have 180 minutes to edit after posting. Mods and admin have no time limit. I'd fix it but like Heb said it straightens up when you click on it.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:46 pm
by Herb Stoops
If you had a forge, and an anvil, you could start blacksmithing,Roxanne.
HErb

EDIT: Oops, I mean Metalsmithing.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:55 pm
by HandyDan
Screw a large eye bolt into that utility pole out back and cold bend the the large diameter around it. Play around and see, you may be able to bend both with it.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:59 pm
by Stick486
roxanne562001 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:51 am 1/2" rebar is kind of tough to bend cold. I would probably need a hydraulic bender.
Hydraulic benders can get a bit pricey...

there is a Plan ''B''....

there are Hickey Benders also...

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 12:54 pm
by roxanne562001
Stick486 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 3:59 pm
roxanne562001 wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 6:51 am 1/2" rebar is kind of tough to bend cold. I would probably need a hydraulic bender.
Hydraulic benders can get a bit pricey...

there is a Plan ''B''....

there are Hickey Benders also...
I would have to sell a lot more than I am to justify the cost Stick

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 1:01 pm
by roxanne562001
Herb Stoops wrote: Sat Mar 27, 2021 1:46 pm If you had a forge, and an anvil, you could start blacksmithing,Roxanne.
HErb

EDIT: Oops, I mean Metalsmithing.
You should really watch those terms Herb LOL someone might get the wrong Idea :twisted: I have a nice big old farm Anvil that my Dad gave me. Now I just need the forge.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:34 pm
by Herb Stoops
My Dad always used charcoal in the forge and got it going with the Oxy/acetylene torch, then an air blower. He welded some legs on an old closed truck rim. You could probably make your own forge. I didn't know that propane was hot enough, maybe Oxy/Propane is.
Herb
ED: Come to think of it he used coal, not charcoal, and stared it with the Oxy/Acetylene torch, and had an old hoover vacuum cleaner motor/fan to blow the air.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:19 pm
by Cherryville Chuck
Herb Stoops wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:34 pm My Dad always used charcoal in the forge and got it going with the Oxy/acetylene torch, then an air blower. He welded some legs on an old closed truck rim. You could probably make your own forge. I didn't know that propane was hot enough, maybe Oxy/Propane is.
Herb
A truck brake drum might work well. They're built to take heat. Probably don't need a huge amount of air. Way back they used foot operated bellows. If you lived in north Alabama you'd have coal available. I remember as a kid going with relatives from near Cullman out to where they were constructing I-65 and shoveling it out of a cut bank into the back of their pickup.

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:11 pm
by Herb Stoops
Cherryville Chuck wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:19 pm
Herb Stoops wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:34 pm

A truck brake drum might work well. They're built to take heat. Probably don't need a huge amount of air. Way back they used foot operated bellows. If you lived in north Alabama you'd have coal available. I remember as a kid going with relatives from near Cullman out to where they were constructing I-65 and shoveling it out of a cut bank into the back of their pickup.
When I went to visit my brother at Ninilchic,Alaska, we drove along the beach and did the same from a vein in the cut bank. It was kind of soft coal, more like charcoal.
Herb

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:11 pm
by roxanne562001
Herb Stoops wrote: Mon Mar 29, 2021 3:34 pm My Dad always used charcoal in the forge and got it going with the Oxy/acetylene torch, then an air blower. He welded some legs on an old closed truck rim. You could probably make your own forge. I didn't know that propane was hot enough, maybe Oxy/Propane is.
Herb
ED: Come to think of it he used coal, not charcoal, and stared it with the Oxy/Acetylene torch, and had an old hoover vacuum cleaner motor/fan to blow the air.
My dad had an old Blacksmith forge I used to crank the blower for him. He always used charcoal. I am thinking about building a propane mini forge there are many videos on youtube. Something sort of like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcaqhNlRRB0

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:41 pm
by Herb Stoops
To make those large diam. bends your forge will have to be a tad larger, and maybe have some coals to lay the rebar in to hold the heat for a longer length.
Do you weld wire feed or stick? Just curious.
Interesting project./
Herb

Re: Not wood working but some metal work

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 2:27 pm
by roxanne562001
Herb Stoops wrote: Wed Mar 31, 2021 6:41 pm To make those large diam. bends your forge will have to be a tad larger, and maybe have some coals to lay the rebar in to hold the heat for a longer length.
Do you weld wire feed or stick? Just curious.
Interesting project./
Herb
I only have a wire feed welder with gas now. I used to have a stick welder but I sold it. I would like to buy a tig machine someday or maybe one of those combo machines I have been thinking about this one https://www.amazon.com/Lincoln-Electric ... gchamps-20