The magic of superglue…
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
Fast way to patch up the wood. Gums up the disc a tad. You can dump out the dust canister on the sander too.
Herb
Herb
- Nickp
- Site Admin
- Posts: 1374
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:31 pm
- Location: Monroe County, PA
- Preferred name: Nick
- Has thanked: 533 times
- Been thanked: 352 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
Way too slick...thanks !
Don't piss off old people. The older we get the less "Life in Prison" is a deterrent !
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
BTW...
how does it finish???
how does it finish???
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
Just guessing, but it might not be compatible with stains or oil finishes. Any finish that doesn't need to soak in might work.
Herb
Herb
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
figured about the same...Herb Stoops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:43 pm Just guessing, but it might not be compatible with stains or oil finishes. Any finish that doesn't need to soak in might work.
Herb
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 826
- Joined: Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:53 pm
- Location: Clute Texas
- Has thanked: 208 times
- Been thanked: 333 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I recently fixed the broken latch on our Grand Mother clock with Super Glue. Didn;t hold very well, but I had to keep my left hand in my pocket for a week until I got my two fingers pried apart. Lost some skin on that job.
Bushwhacker
Bushwhacker
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
for the next time...Bushwhacker wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:29 am I had to keep my left hand in my pocket for a week until I got my two fingers pried apart. Lost some skin on that job.
fingernail polish remover painted on w/ a Q tip...
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I had that experience too. It didn't hold the glasses together, but 2 fingers the index and naughty finger were stuck together for a long time. I have heard that surgeons use it to close wounds.
I turned to Bluelight Glue like the dentist uses. I bought a tube and a blue light flashliight and it seems to work better. The glasses stay and my fingers aren't stuck.
HErb
I turned to Bluelight Glue like the dentist uses. I bought a tube and a blue light flashliight and it seems to work better. The glasses stay and my fingers aren't stuck.
HErb
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I have heard that Acetone (nail polish remover) is harmful to a person, it causes shortened menstrual cycles. And if consumed is hard on your lungs and throat when breathing the fumes, another side effect is it is quite combustible,towards explosive so smoking while using it is frowned upon.
Herb
Herb
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
we could use you having shorter menstrual cycles... hopefully it helps w/ your PMS too...Herb Stoops wrote: ↑Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:28 am I have heard that Acetone (nail polish remover) is harmful to a person, it causes shortened menstrual cycles.
Herb
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
she passed on sometime back... so that's not an issue here anymore...
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
- DaninVan
- Registered User
- Posts: 2371
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
- Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
- Has thanked: 302 times
- Been thanked: 417 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I mentioned that Acetone thing to my cousin, a Dr. (Radiologist) and he kind of laughed it off saying that Acetone is a naturally occurring compound in your body, not to worry...
I'm still dubious.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-is-acetone#1
I'm still dubious.
https://www.webmd.com/diet/what-is-acetone#1
-
- Global Moderator
- Posts: 2648
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:27 pm
- Location: Cherryville, B C
- Has thanked: 561 times
- Been thanked: 1011 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
The best way to find out about a substance is to check its MSDS or just SDS (material safety data sheet). Everything is online these days. Section 4 has the suggested first aid measures, section 9 has it's physical and chemical properties, and section 11 has toxicological information. Those are the most important ones. Section 10 which is reactivity and stability may on rare occasion be of interest. Section 9 shows that acetone has an extremely low viscosity, about 1/3 that of water which suggests it may be easily absorbed through the skin and nasal and lung membranes. Flammability and explosive limits are also of interest in section 9. At a concentration of 2.5% of acetone fumes to air ratio it goes boom it it gets a spark.With acetone at 2.5% though you'd probably be unconscious already.
I was taught in first aid that if you find a person unconscious with no sign of trauma to smell their breath and if it smells fruity or like acetone that they are in a diabetic coma from too high a level of ketones which I believe is the chemical family that acetone belongs to. So while the doctor is correct, they are a bad thing. The MSDSs also talk about things like Time Weighted Averages (twa) and Exposure Limits (stel) in section 8. It's rare that we would need to worry about that but it's obvious that a person should be using gloves and if possible have a fan blowing the fumes away from you. Even a single exposure can have an effect on the central nervous system according to the MSDS.
The MSDS for acetone- https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?pa ... anguage=en
By the way, another very nasty chemical sometimes used in the workshop is methyl hydrate. Take all the same precautions as for acetone. I've used it for smoothing out shellac.
I was taught in first aid that if you find a person unconscious with no sign of trauma to smell their breath and if it smells fruity or like acetone that they are in a diabetic coma from too high a level of ketones which I believe is the chemical family that acetone belongs to. So while the doctor is correct, they are a bad thing. The MSDSs also talk about things like Time Weighted Averages (twa) and Exposure Limits (stel) in section 8. It's rare that we would need to worry about that but it's obvious that a person should be using gloves and if possible have a fan blowing the fumes away from you. Even a single exposure can have an effect on the central nervous system according to the MSDS.
The MSDS for acetone- https://www.fishersci.com/store/msds?pa ... anguage=en
By the way, another very nasty chemical sometimes used in the workshop is methyl hydrate. Take all the same precautions as for acetone. I've used it for smoothing out shellac.
- DaninVan
- Registered User
- Posts: 2371
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 6:12 pm
- Location: Sunshine Coast, BC, Canada
- Has thanked: 302 times
- Been thanked: 417 times
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
-
- Registered User
- Posts: 18
- Joined: Sun Nov 01, 2020 12:04 am
- Location: Rethymno, Crete, Greece
- Preferred name: Dimitri
- Has thanked: 27 times
- Been thanked: 19 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
Greetings!
Thank you Michael for the very good technique pointed. I would like to add a comment and ask a question:
Having to fill up many woodworm cavities I tried several DIY fillers, and some german wood filler off-the-shelf, average result, then some mixture of fine wood dust with glue - a sticky dough that will make a light halo around the filled cavity in the end. The halo will not absorb stain (as it is glue absorbed at the margins of the cavity). Then, as it dries it loses water and sinks, and needs another layer to fill and another day to wait for it to dry. Not impressed. Then, (and this was unexpectedly bad) I tried a waterproof wood glue I have with the same fine wood powder, and it dried up to an extremely hard layer that would not yield to sandpaper, and was there for everyone to see, disgusting and impossible to get rid of in any way. Then, I tried dried espresso coffee grinds with glue. I chose the coffee grinds because a very dark brown contrast looks slightly better than the dim brownish paste made of sandpaper dust. I mixed it with glue, the same story with shrinking in the cavity. I reverted to the german putty and did a mediocre job. Now I need more of this work now, and I am willing to try coffee grind with superglue, but would like to hear your experience with stains on the patches. How good do you think it is in filling deep and wide cavities, does it crumble away after sometime, does it take stains without halo, does the finish stick on it or will it flake away? One minute videos do not tell the whole truth, they seem (and in many aspects they are) miraculous, but leave a lot of descriptions in the dark.
Thank you Michael for the very good technique pointed. I would like to add a comment and ask a question:
Having to fill up many woodworm cavities I tried several DIY fillers, and some german wood filler off-the-shelf, average result, then some mixture of fine wood dust with glue - a sticky dough that will make a light halo around the filled cavity in the end. The halo will not absorb stain (as it is glue absorbed at the margins of the cavity). Then, as it dries it loses water and sinks, and needs another layer to fill and another day to wait for it to dry. Not impressed. Then, (and this was unexpectedly bad) I tried a waterproof wood glue I have with the same fine wood powder, and it dried up to an extremely hard layer that would not yield to sandpaper, and was there for everyone to see, disgusting and impossible to get rid of in any way. Then, I tried dried espresso coffee grinds with glue. I chose the coffee grinds because a very dark brown contrast looks slightly better than the dim brownish paste made of sandpaper dust. I mixed it with glue, the same story with shrinking in the cavity. I reverted to the german putty and did a mediocre job. Now I need more of this work now, and I am willing to try coffee grind with superglue, but would like to hear your experience with stains on the patches. How good do you think it is in filling deep and wide cavities, does it crumble away after sometime, does it take stains without halo, does the finish stick on it or will it flake away? One minute videos do not tell the whole truth, they seem (and in many aspects they are) miraculous, but leave a lot of descriptions in the dark.
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I have used water based hard rock putty and also epoxy for larger voids. but my favorite for doing the sawdust thing is to mix the sawdust with shellac instead of glue and then sand it off and give the project a coat of sanding sealer, which is diluted shellac. The patch seems to blend in without marks.
HErb
HErb
- Stick486
- CS/TS
- Posts: 20493
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:40 am
- Location: Central Colorado
- Preferred name: Stick486
- Has thanked: 657 times
- Been thanked: 580 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
I'm w/ you Herb...Herb Stoops wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:41 pm I have used water based hard rock putty and also epoxy for larger voids. but my favorite for doing the sawdust thing is to mix the sawdust with shellac instead of glue and then sand it off and give the project a coat of sanding sealer, which is diluted shellac. The patch seems to blend in without marks.
HErb
consider wood grain fillers.....
gave up on the SG nonsense ages ago...
Forget the primal scream, just ROAR!!!
SNORK” Mountain Congressional Library and Taxidermy...
- Herb Stoops
- The Welcome Wagon
- Posts: 3054
- Joined: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:05 pm
- Location: Auburn WA.,USA
- Preferred name: Raff
- Has thanked: 1484 times
- Been thanked: 876 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
When I was a kid,over 80 years ago we read somewhere that sniffing acetone cured pimples. they were right too dead people don't get pimples.
Herb
- Jon
- Registered User
- Posts: 198
- Joined: Sat Oct 31, 2020 7:27 pm
- Location: Near Boring Oregon
- Preferred name: Jon
- Has thanked: 165 times
- Been thanked: 113 times
Re: The magic of superglue…
Interesting approach. A bit surprised to see the bare finger smoothing over the glue joint. Makes one suspicious.