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Glitches need hacks...or something.
OK; well the spools I bought from Bear Woods Supply are perfect except they're supposed to be mounted on 1/4" dowels for axles.
I was a bit suspicious because the catalogue didn't give a spec for the bored out hole in them. Turns out (no pun intended) that it's actually 19/64ths or 7.5mm. Needless to say they're a pretty sloppy fit on the 1/4" dowels.
Bsing with the neighbours and someone suggested a sleeve; my first reaction was 'Not happening!", but then I thought about it and when I came home I checked my stock of shrink tubing and found a size that's a great fit.
Works like a hot damn...pun intended!
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Another glitch. Not a happy camper.
I was mounting the 24 tandem wheels on their 24 axle pins when I discovered their were only 23 in the small container I had placed them in after painting the exposed hub portion of each.
So, they came in a pack of 25, from Bear Woods Supply; and I had taken a scrap of plywood, drilled 4 rows of 6 holes each, and stuck the pins in them for painting.
????... I've lost one of the painted ones as well as the spare 25th.
This morning I'm going to lift the motor/fan unit off the dust collector on the off chance they got sucked in.
I swept the floor yesterday, and cleaned up the work area. i obviously also checked everywhere that I may have put them for future use (now!)
Last night I re-ordered another set of 25 on the off chance the missing ones moved to another dimension... :(
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You might have a wheel burglar afoot. Maybe some critter who thought it was a cookie. Be sure not to use the crane without a wheel, it might tip over.
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they're either in your pant's cuff or pocket...
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check to see if it's still sitting where you set it down...
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I'm convinced that holes from our dimension into some other one open up at the exact moment that things fall off my bench. The falling motion must be what opens them up. Once in a while the hole opens from the other direction and they fall back into ours but that can takes weeks or even months.
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Cherryville Chuck wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:26 pm I'm convinced that holes from our dimension into some other one open up at the exact moment that things fall off my bench. The falling motion must be what opens them up. Once in a while the hole opens from the other direction and they fall back into ours but that can takes weeks or even months.
I believe you are on to something Chuck,,,,
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I'm a firm believer in that!!!
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did you look in the last place you didn't look???
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That was the FIRST place I didn't look!
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this sounds like looking for the pencil that's over your ear, the glasses that are on top of your head or the tape measure that's in your hand...
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Sounds like you have a camera in my shop. I have been to all of those places Stick.

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Stick486 wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:59 pm
Cherryville Chuck wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:26 pm I'm convinced that holes from our dimension into some other one open up at the exact moment that things fall off my bench. The falling motion must be what opens them up. Once in a while the hole opens from the other direction and they fall back into ours but that can takes weeks or even months.
I believe you are on to something Chuck,,,,
I was taking a plunge router apart a few years ago to clean sawdust out of the columns. I lost my grip on it and the base popped out and I heard that little brass plug that goes between the locking lever and the column hit the floor. I scanned the floor with no luck, got down on my hands and knees with a flashlight and looked that way for a while, then finally swept the floor (which wasn't particularly dirty at the time) and sifted through the debris in the dust pan. Still no luck. After an hour of looking I gave up and ordered a new one. Two months later I took a tool bag off the shelf under a nearby bench and there was the plug sitting on top of it. The top of the bag was about two feet off the floor and about 5 or 6 feet away from where the plug fell out. It's literally impossible for it to bounce that high and that far away. The dimensional portal explanation is the only one that seems plausible.
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Bushwhacker wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:06 pm Sounds like you have a camera in my shop. I have been to all of those places Stick.
we all have...
but the camera in Dan's shop is to collect clues to help us find his beer stash...
PLEASE!!!... what ever you do don't tell him it's there... keep this tidbit between us...
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Cherryville Chuck wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:24 pm The dimensional portal explanation is the only one that seems plausible.
it's really working overtime when you drop that vital piece and you never hear it hit the floor or anything else.. it' just disappears...
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Sound waves can't pass through the dimensional barrier...
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DaninVan wrote: Fri Nov 26, 2021 2:46 pm Sound waves can't pass through the dimensional barrier...
that explains a lot...
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I'm just heading back out to the shop; I'm going to finish them...minus the one set of wheels.
Not even going to think about the axel pins. 25 new ones arrive on Tuesday.
(plus a bunch of new Pegas scroll blades. i want to try scrollsaw bowl making.)
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Done! ...not counting that last set of wheels.
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Great job, Did you make the little buckets? These are the real deal, I bet they get used.
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Nope; Dollar Store. Same for the little silver tackle things at the end of the lift lines. China's good for something...
That white cord? I had to buy a two pound spool of hard braided nylon...3/16" I think, maybe a little thinner. The label says #30 whatever that means.
I have enough line now for the rest of my life and then some. I'd like to see some rugrat try and break that stuff! :)
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DaninVan wrote: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:51 pm That white cord? I had to buy a two pound spool of hard braided nylon...3/16" I think, maybe a little thinner. The label says #30 whatever that means.
sub braided Dacron fishing line - aka fly fishing line backing (waxed)...
or braided Dacron line..
or braided Dacron kite line...
#30 - strength...
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Correction: make that 3/32" not 3/16".
Funny thing about it is the guys that made it don't have a listing in their catalogue...is that weird or what???
https://www.samsonrope.com/product/solid-braid-nylon
But where I bought it..
http://www.marinehardware.ca/catalogue.html
Pg 1032 Left side 1/2 way down
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Ever work with "Flywashers"?

My most frequently "disappearing" hardware has always been an E-clip or TruArc ring, (Aka "Flywasher"). They seem to be the only mechanical object that can exceed the speed of light instantly. They are there, then not. You hear where they have been, sometimes 3 or 4 places, but their final resting point is always silent, which usually means "never to be found". It's instinct to look where you last heard the hit, but it's never there, and quite likely somewhere in the opposite direction.

A friend coined the name "Flywasher" and it fits so well that I have used it for about 60 years now. He was my partner in a vending machine business, and Seeburg Juke Boxes used many E-clips and TruArc rings in their mechanisms. Somehow, he always managed to avoid any major repairs on them and left them for me to fix, likely because of the number of these "Flywashers" in the mechanisms.

Since then, I have always kept large assortments of all versions and sizes of these in divided boxes. I have learned to just get another one out of these boxes and not even try to look for them when they suddenly break the speed of light in front of me. I have magnets in my dust collectors, and magnets on telescoping wands, even a broom with magnets, but rarely do these flywashers turn up on one of those magnets. If they do, I just put them in one of the divided compartments of these boxes, to give them a second chance to hide better the next time that I try to use them.

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Many moons ago i worked for IBM, and during my training had a tour of the Don Mills plant (Ontario). The tour guide mentioned that the assembly staff were instructed to NOT stop what they were doing if they dropped a part. Just pull another from the parts frays and carry on.
No idea what the fate of the parts picked up by the floor sweeping equipment was.
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CharleyL wrote: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:55 am Ever work with "Flywashers"?

My most frequently "disappearing" hardware has always been an E-clip or TruArc ring, (Aka "Flywasher"). They seem to be the only mechanical object that can exceed the speed of light instantly. They are there, then not. You hear where they have been, sometimes 3 or 4 places, but their final resting point is always silent, which usually means "never to be found". It's instinct to look where you last heard the hit, but it's never there, and quite likely somewhere in the opposite direction.

A friend coined the name "Flywasher" and it fits so well that I have used it for about 60 years now. He was my partner in a vending machine business, and Seeburg Juke Boxes used many E-clips and TruArc rings in their mechanisms. Somehow, he always managed to avoid any major repairs on them and left them for me to fix, likely because of the number of these "Flywashers" in the mechanisms.

Since then, I have always kept large assortments of all versions and sizes of these in divided boxes. I have learned to just get another one out of these boxes and not even try to look for them when they suddenly break the speed of light in front of me. I have magnets in my dust collectors, and magnets on telescoping wands, even a broom with magnets, but rarely do these flywashers turn up on one of those magnets. If they do, I just put them in one of the divided compartments of these boxes, to give them a second chance to hide better the next time that I try to use them.

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That's my experience with finding them too, magnets rarely improve your odds of locating an errant one.
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I too worked 26 years for "Big Blue", but designing control systems for large scale high speed manufacturing automation in East Fishkill, NY, but was loaned out several times for certain projects like the NASA Apollo, Skylab, and the Space Shuttle.

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